Heather Nelson wants to help you find freedom from shame.

The two truths that God speaks into our hearts is first of all, we have been living for the wrong person.

And then secondly, we have been seeking approval through the wrong means.

This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss-Wmoot, author of Choosing Gratitude for Tuesday, July 18th, 2017.

There are so many pressures to live up to in our plugged-in world.

Aaron Davis and Heather Nelson talked about that yesterday.

They talked about the shame we sometimes feel from not living up to expectations.

We'll pick up that conversation today where they talked about how to be free from shame.

Aaron and Heather recorded this interview at a gospel coalition women's conference.

They were at a booth where our team was greeting Reviver Heart's listeners,

so you'll hear some background noise, but don't let that distract you from this important message.

Let's listen.

So you address several kind of layers of shame. And one you talked

about is body shame. Yes. Which I'm not sure there's a woman in history who hasn't felt some

version of that. How have you seen that in your own life? How I've seen that in my own life is, I think it really began developing in eighth grade,

those awful middle school years. Maybe it's good for someone. I just haven't heard that. I've never

met them. I've never met them. No. So middle school and into high school of, for me, I felt like

it was really focused on clothing, which I know it's kind of a weird iteration of body shame, but I felt like everyone else knew what cool clothes to wear.

And I just was always a few years behind.

And I made the connection of like, well, if I knew what to wear, then I would have been accepted by the end crowd who always knew what to wear.

So that's one aspect of body shame. But then if we fast forward to postpartum years, there's a whole other aspect of body shame. And I would imagine to post-menopausal years, there's probably another layer. There's probably another layer. Because, I mean, the older you get as women, our metabolism does slow down. We can't expect to have the same body type that we

had at 20, you know, when we're 30, 35, 40. And I mean, what a beautiful thing. Our bodies can

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