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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Freedom, and what it means to have a body

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2021

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Vox's Anna North talks with author Olivia Laing about her book Everybody: A Book About Freedom. Through the surprisingly connected lives of artists, activists, psychoanalysts, and sexologists, they discuss the different ways our bodies are persecuted, imprisoned, and policed — and the ways our physical selves can be liberated. Host: Anna North (@annanorthtweets), Senior Reporter, Vox Guest: Olivia Laing, Author References:  Everybody: A Book About Freedom (Picador, 2021) The Lonely City (Picador, 2017) “Wilhelm Reich: the man who invented free love” by Christopher Turner (The Guardian, July 8, 2011) Susan Sontag, Illness as Metaphor (1978) “Overlooked No More: Ana Mendieta, a Cuban Artist Who Pushed Boundaries” by Monica Castillo (New York Times, Sept. 19, 2018) Agnes Martin, 1912–2004 (MoMA) Philip Guston, 1913–1980 (MoMA) “Cloudbusting” by Kate Bush (1985), music video dir. by Julian Doyle   Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by:  Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey VP, Vox Audio: Liz Kelly Nelson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

What if every morning your shower warmed up to the perfect temp and paused until you're

0:04.7

ready to step in?

0:06.7

What if you knew about a leaky pipe before it caused any damage?

0:11.3

What if you never had to worry about getting caught watering the lawn in the rain?

0:15.6

With the Moan Smart Water Network, these aren't what ifs.

0:19.1

Instead, they're simply what the next wave of water is capable of.

0:25.3

Water designs our life.

0:27.0

Who designs for water?

0:29.1

Moan.

0:31.3

Get Disney Plus in Hulu in a brand new bundle.

0:33.7

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0:36.3

Offer valid for eligible subscribers only, terms apply.

0:39.1

Visit DisneyBundle.com for details.

1:02.5

Olivia Lang is a writer who goes both broad and deep.

1:06.0

In her nonfiction, she often melds art, criticism, history, political commentary, and memoir.

1:12.2

She's writing about the world, but she's also writing about herself and her place in

1:15.5

it.

1:16.5

And the way she writes invites readers to consider their own place too.

1:20.5

A first encounter to Olivia Lang through her 2016 work The Lonely City.

1:24.9

This was a book about art, isolation, and her time in New York City.

1:28.4

And it made me personally feel less alone.

1:31.5

Her latest book is Everybody, a book about freedom.

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