Free Thinking - Ukraine and Russia
Arts & Ideas
BBC
4.2 • 599 Ratings
🗓️ 30 January 2014
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Anne McElvoy on unrest in Ukraine and the state of dissent in Russia today with Boris Akunin, Masha Gessen, Marc Bennetts, Anna Shevchenko and Edward Lucas.
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| 0:40.5 | Tonight we embark on a search for the soul of modern Russia poised between this and this. |
| 1:09.4 | From the Sochi olympics to Pousyriot-Gonzableness, is Russia a strong, self-confident country, forging a path separate to the West with pride? |
| 1:13.4 | Or, as neighbouring Ukraine threatens to fracture between a pro-Moscow leadership and demonstrators |
| 1:19.8 | hankering for integration with the West, could the Kremlin be losing its grip on its |
| 1:25.1 | biggest former satellite state. |
| 1:30.5 | Over such questions looms the figure of Vladimir Putin, |
| 1:34.5 | the man around whom Russia's of last or power, has revolved ever since he entered the Kremlin in 1999 |
| 1:37.1 | from a background in the KGB, Russia's secret state. |
| 1:41.6 | Yet Mr Putin also has some noisy foes, a non-more colourful than the |
| 1:46.2 | art house feminist punk group Pussy Riot. Two of its members have just been released from |
| 1:51.1 | jail sentences for high-profile protests, serving time in labour camps and jail conditions reminiscent |
| 1:57.2 | of the Soviet era. Two new books are out on Russia's protest movement, so we've brought together their authors. Mashegesen has written Words Will Break Cement, The Passion of Pussy Riot, and in Moscow, Mark Bennett's, whose book, kicking the Kremlin, dissect Russia's opposition. Joining us, too, is the novelist, Grigory Skartisvili, also known by his pen-name Boris Okunin, |
| 2:19.7 | a leading figure in the big protests against the re-election of President Putin, which began in 2011. |
| 2:25.9 | And we began by asking Grigory Iskartisvili to set the scene for us. |
| 2:30.1 | What's his take on the Russian strong man? |
| 2:32.7 | Everybody has been talking about Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Putin for so many years now |
| 2:38.4 | that all of us Russians have become sort of specialists on his character, his personality. |
| 2:45.7 | It is humiliating. It is awful. |
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