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It's special subject, Neil Atkinson and John Gibbons,

with Anna Walsh.

And Anna, this is the second time we've done this by the way, listeners.

I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often, but we quite literally lost the files.

When I say we, I obviously mean me.

This was one that I couldn't blame anybody else and trust me John I tried.

It would have been tough blaming, I think Anna was the person I couldn't blame, but I honestly I was desperate to blame

Andy and I didn't have a leg to stand on.

I didn't have a leg to stand on. So Andy if you're listening to this.

No, no, no, I've got a cop for this one completely single-handedly.

Are you very magnanimous well as well in at the end there Andy when it was meant to come out that day but anyway we're here now to do it again to talk about

Anna and the work that she's been doing for for years to be honest with your Anna and it's the

your studies being on the Irish migrants experience in Leeds that's the

that's the the thesis that you've done and you know I think first and foremost

migrations are really interesting subject to study

how it's viewed and seen and how not all that much changes but the first sort of

question that I wanted to ask you having looked through the thing is why leads?

A good question.

So you'll be probably familiar with the links between

sort of Irish migration and London and certainly with Liverpool, Glasgow, Manchester

that have got sort of significant Irish populations and there isn't perhaps as much written

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