Hello and welcome to a channel 33 Podcast. My name is Sean Fennese, I'm the editor and

chief of the ringer. I'm joined today by the writer director Ben Wheatley, who's made

seven feature films including The Horrifying Killist, The Psychedelically Violent Field

in England, and The Dystopian Satire High Rise. Is that accurate, Ben?

Well, I think it's six, but seven if you count the theatrical release of The Breath,

The Doctor Who episode. I do count that. Good. His new movie is a 70s shot, shoot him

up. It takes place almost entirely in a warehouse. It's called Free Fire. It stars Brelarsen,

Army Hammer, and Killian Murphy. Ben, thanks for coming and chatting with me.

Oh, thanks for having me. So Ben, you make movies with common themes, but they are often

operating in different genres. So, you know, you've made a, let's say, a science fiction

dystopia. You've made a crime thriller. You've made movies that seem like one thing, but

often go in the other direction. Are you always thinking about genre when you're writing

your movies? I think I'm thinking about what kind of films I want to see, and I like genre

films, so I kind of go to that. It's my happy place.

Did you feel like you just hadn't seen a great action movie in a long time? Is that

why you wanted to this? Yeah, I wanted to make one. I like action movies a lot, and I

felt that the world of the contained relatable action, you know, where you understand what

physically you could do these things. And if you're in this situation, you might do it

that way, kind of action, which I don't think we've seen that much of. It's kind of now

action is more, the spectacle side of it is so huge in the kind of scale of these things

are so huge that you just feel you watch it and go, what I found specifically, I was

watching movies and I was going, this is amazing. If I'd have seen this when I was 10, if

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