Free Britney! Conservatorship and Disability

Overthink

Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D.

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Education

4.7 • 550 Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2021

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In episode 22 of Overthink, Ellie and David discuss the new Britney Spears documentary exposing her legal conservatorship. After bonding over their tween obsession with Britney, they dive into the laws around conservatorship and cultural narratives around mental health. The two argue that disability has been largely ignored in the conversation around Britney Spears, even though people with disabilities and the elderly are most affected by conservatorships. They show how disability studies and feminist theories of care illuminate the conversation. Also mentioned: translating toxic to Spanish, early 2000's choreographed dances, Grace and Frankie, and more.

Works Discussed:
Aristotle, Politics
Erica F. Wood, State Level Adult Guardianship Data: An Exploratory Survey
Giorgio Agamben, State of Exception
Grace and Frankie (TV series)
Jan Baars, Aging and the Art of Living
Joe Coscarelli, What is a Conservatorship?
John Locke, Two Treatises of Government
Jonathan Blakeson, I Care a Lot (Film)
Sara Luterman, The Darker Story Just Outside the Lens of “Framing Britney Spears”
Seneca, On Old Age
Simone de Beauvoir, The Coming of Age
The New York Times, Framing Britney Spears (Documentary)
Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Ellie Anderson.
0:09.2	And I'm David Pena Guzman.
0:11.0	Welcome to Overthink.
0:12.6	The podcast, we're two friends who are also professors, put philosophy and dialogue with the everyday.
0:18.8	Because big ideas are within everyone's reach.
0:31.6	David, have you watched a Britney Spears documentary?
0:34.4	Me and everybody's grandmother.
0:37.9	Yeah, when I was young, I used to be a huge Britney Spears fan.
0:41.7	And one thing that I should clarify is that this happened when I lived in Mexico.
0:45.7	And so me and all my friends in middle school were listening to Britney Spears nonstop
0:51.1	after school.
0:52.3	But obviously, none of us spoke any English. So we would just
0:56.0	parrot the words and essentially create what we thought was the proper meaning of her music.
1:03.6	So we would invent the words. Yeah. Well, I don't remember the details, but phonetically,
1:08.5	we would translate whatever we thought her word sounded like
1:12.4	into something equivalent in Spanish, and then just riff off of the possibility that that's
1:17.9	what she was saying. Oh my God. I feel like somebody in Complit needs to write a paper about that.
1:22.7	Translation errors in teen listening to Britney Spears. Yeah, definitely lost and found in translation.
1:30.3	It's like toxic or stronger, queer teens in Mexico translating Britney Spears.
1:37.8	Hypertextuality, the experience of the in-between through Britney.
1:44.9	I have vivid memories of making up choreographed dances too stronger in my bedroom when I was in middle school.
1:51.6	And it's wild to think that our childhood pop star has been so unjustly treated.
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