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I've failed miserably at being with my own pain and the pain of others.

I've failed miserably.

But I've learned to come back, you know, just to come back, just begin again.

That in itself is the kindest, most extraordinary of meditation instructions,

but it's also the way to work with the ways in which we've been abandoned either by ourselves or others.

In this episode of Insights at the Edge, I am so pleased and honored that our guest is Frank

Osteseski. Frank is a pioneer in compassionate end-of-life care and a respected Buddhist teacher.

He co-founded the Zen Hospice Project, America's first Buddhist hospice, and established the META Institute to train

health care professionals and caregivers. He's taught at Harvard Medical School and the Mayo Clinic,

and he's the author of the book, The Five Invitations, Discovering death can teach us about living fully.

Friends, stay with us.

Frank, welcome.

Oh, thank you a lot, Tammy.

Nice to be with you. And let me say, I want to begin by thanking you

for your own wisdom, but also how you gather wisdom and share it with the world. So thank you

for doing that. Yeah. Thank you, Frank. And this is the first time we've ever had the chance

to have a conversation like this and record it, a podcast

conversation. And if it's okay with you, I want to jump right to my sense of the heart of the

matter, which is as I was familiarizing myself with your work, what I learned is that you've distilled into these two questions

what's most alive for people as they face the end of their life. The question, not so much,

you know, the regrets of the dying, this or that, no, that's not what you have distilled down to this core.

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