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The Good Fight

Francis Fukuyama

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2017

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Yascha Mounk discusses the degree to which democracy in the United States is under threat, the slow erosion of liberal norms, and the future of American identity with Francis Fukuyama. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Co. UK.

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UK. When have countries really undergone systemic major overhauls?

0:38.6

It's usually after a war, after a revolution, after a really major economic crisis when everybody is so

0:44.8

impressed with the failure of the old system that they're willing to try something very

0:48.8

different. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:54.0

Welcome to the podcast that searches for the ideas, policies and strategies

0:58.0

that can beat up for a retiring populist like Donald Trump over the next four years and the next 40.

1:05.0

I want to revisit a debate we had a couple of weeks ago when Donald Trump decided to bomb an airfield in Syria.

1:15.0

You know, there's something about the newsbiz,

1:18.0

there's something about the op-ed biz that makes for strong opinions.

1:22.0

You want to go to your readers with a clear point of view.

1:25.0

I myself find that when I write my column,

1:28.0

I sometimes come off, you know,

1:30.0

more clear-headed or at least less honestly confused about the world as I perhaps

1:36.8

am in the real world. But on a topic like what to do about Syria I just don't understand how stark the opinions are on either side of the divide.

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