Francis Fukuyama on whether America's democracy is decaying
The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Vox Media Podcast Network
4.5 • 11.1K Ratings
🗓️ 11 October 2016
⏱️ 68 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains explicit language. |
| 0:03.3 | Hello and welcome to another episode of the Ezra Client Show. |
| 0:14.9 | I have a guest today who many of you have been emailing me saying you wanted to hear |
| 0:18.8 | really since I launched the program. |
| 0:20.8 | Francis Fukuyama, a legendary political scientist who's at Stanford now, he's known for the |
| 0:26.7 | end of history in the last man which argued that liberal democracy was such a dominant |
| 0:33.4 | model that had tried to completely overcome the communism that we had moved past the point |
| 0:38.1 | of these great clash of civilization like political conflicts. |
| 0:42.2 | More recently he's been writing about the origins of liberal democracies, how they |
| 0:46.3 | emerge, how they develop, and also how they decay. |
| 0:49.8 | So more recently he's written two really tremendous books, the origins of political order |
| 0:53.8 | and also political order and political decay. |
| 0:56.9 | And both of them try to track a thesis that is very connected to the end of history. |
| 1:01.2 | How do liberal democracies emerge, how do societies become stable democracies, and also |
| 1:06.2 | how do they begin to die? |
| 1:07.8 | What kinds of forces rot them from within? |
| 1:10.9 | It is very, very relevant work right now and we talk about it in some detail, we talk |
| 1:15.3 | about why he uses Denmark as the example of a very high functioning liberal democratic society. |
| 1:21.1 | We talk about whether what is happening now in America with Trump accords to his thesis |
| 1:25.9 | or is another kind of problem. |
| 1:27.6 | We talk about what is motivating white working class distrust and anger at the political |
| 1:32.0 | system. |
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