We are blessed to be joined this week on the Aspects of John podcast by a guest and our friend.

Francis Chan, who joins us from San Francisco, Francis and his wife Lisa are the authors of the new

book, You and Me Forever, Marriage in Light of Eternity. And we will get to marriage questions

soon enough, but first I want to ask you, Francis, about your fight for joy in Christ every day.

Is this a struggle for you? Does Francis Chan fight for joy in Christ?

Yes, absolutely. I have to fight for joy every day. For me, it's a real fight for my mind.

Lately, the battle has been multitasking. Because I love to accomplish, I love to get a lot of

things done in one day. And I'm like, man, why do one thing when you can do three? You know, so

you're just going and it's all for the kingdom and everything. But then it comes time to pray.

And this is where multitasking can kill you. Is your mind is used to doing several things at once.

And if you're trying to do three things at once, you really can't worship him wholeheartedly.

First Peter 4, 7 talks about being clear-minded for the purpose of prayer,

not to be self-controlled and sober-minded, clear-minded. And my fight is those times where I just

want to get away from everything and to rejoice in the Lord. I mean, genuinely, just to come into

the presence of God and not have my mind wander. So sometimes I'm pacing. Sometimes I'm praying

out loud. Sometimes I'm singing out loud. Sometimes I'm on my knees. Sometimes doing all three or

four of those things just so that my mind doesn't switch to something else. I'm just 100% focused on God,

thanking Him for everything I have in Christ. I mean, life is good. Our existence is good. We're so

blessed. But to focus on that and to really rejoice in that, gosh, it's a real fight.

To the point where I just a few weeks ago, because we've got like a dozen people living in our

house and it's not a big house. And so the noise factor along with technology, everything else,

I just end up building a little room in my garage, tiny rooms, more like a closet or something,

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