The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everybody welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of

God and the good of others.

Every week, I host a conversation with a Christian

who's pursuing world-class mastery of their craft.

We talk about their path to mastery,

their daily habits, and how their faith influences their work.

Today's guest needs no introduction.

We're talking with Francine Rivers, the New York Times best-selling author of many books, but most notably, redeeming love, which has sold more than 3 million copies since it was released for the first time 30 years ago.

It's almost Valentine's Day. It felt like the perfect time to release this episode.

Francine and I sat down together back in December.

We talked about what her involvement was in the upcoming Redeeming Love film.

We talked about her three-year bout of writers block right after

coming to faith in Christ, and we talked about the striking parallels in her life story and that of C.S. Lewis, this is a terrific conversation

with my new friend Francine Rivers. Brancine Rivers, thank you so much for joining me.

Oh, it's a pleasure to be here.

So my listeners have heard me talk about this in the past.

I read basically zero fiction. I write non-fiction.

That's the craft I know so I don't read fiction. The exceptions being

CS Lewis's Chronicles and Ornia. Oh yeah. And being CS loisies Chronicles in Narnia and Redeeming love. That's it. That's the whole

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