Francesca Gino: ...that it would be important to bring rebelliousness into our lives

Nobody Told Me!

Business, Entrepreneurship

4.2 • 671 Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2022

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Do you see yourself as a “rebel”? If so, you may have what it takes to become very successful! Our guest, award-winning Harvard Business School Professor and behavioral scientist Francesca Gino, has been studying rebels at organizations around the world for two decades. She contends the most successful among us are those who break the rules and she shows how to do that in her book called, “Rebel Talent: Why it pays to break the rules at work and in life.” Francesca's website is: http://francescagino.com.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Jan Black. And I'm Laura Owens. Would you describe yourself as a rebel? If so, you may have what it takes to become very successful. Our guest,
0:23.4	award-winning Harvard Business School professor and behavioral scientist Francesca Gino, has been
0:28.9	studying rebels at organizations around the world for more than 15 years. She contends the most
0:34.8	successful among us are those who break the rules, and she shows how to do that in her new book called Rebel Talent, Why It Pays to Break the Rules at Work and in Life.
0:46.8	Francesca, thank you so much for talking to us today.
0:50.2	Thank you so much for having me.
0:52.1	So talk to us a little bit about your background and what got you interested in studying
0:57.0	rebels?
0:58.0	For many years, I studied rule breaking in the more spheres.
1:02.0	So people who cheat, steal, and lie.
1:05.0	And I explore why this happens and what organizations could do to prevent it.
1:10.0	But then in time I began to notice a different side of rule breaking.
1:13.9	People who broke the rules, and in the process, they were driving positive change.
1:19.6	These were people who were breaking rules that actually should be broken, rules that were holding them and others back.
1:27.1	So how do you define a rebel?
1:29.6	And what's the line between being a rebel and being a troublemaker?
1:34.5	We seem to have a very fixed idea of rebels in the business world.
1:38.7	People like Apple visionary Steve Jobs come to mind.
1:42.5	And these rebels, at least the stories go, are very creative, very innovative, but they're also
1:48.1	difficult to work with.
1:49.9	Sometimes they're described as control freaks who create chaos or people that you rather
1:54.9	not have as a boss or an employee.
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