Four Women, One Devastating Allegation

No Man's Land by The Wing

The Wing

Society & Culture, History

4.8 • 1000 Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2018

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Four women who lived a hundred years apart, connected by one devastating allegation: Alice Mitchell was the origin, Dr. Evelyn Hooker was the pioneer, and Barbara Gittings and Kay Lahusen the heroes. Thanks to our presenting sponsor SAP. To learn more, visit www.sap.com/womenforward. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey No Man's Land listeners, it's me Audrey Gellman, CEO and co-founder of the wing.
0:10.0	If you've been listening to our podcast since the beginning, you know I love the Emmy Award-winning series,
0:14.1	The Marvelous Mrs. Maisle, and I'm so excited the show is finally back.
0:18.0	Midge Maisle is a tough woman who refuses to be put in a box, and I love seeing characters like that on TV.
0:23.7	Thanks to Amazon Prime video for their support and welcome to episode four of
0:27.5	no man's land. After a year of more than friendship I finally faced the fact that this was desire and sex and lust and love and all those things
0:48.3	just like the straight people feel. Kayla Hoosin grew up in Ohio in the 1940s,
0:56.0	and despite her joyous tone,
0:58.0	it wasn't the best time or place to come out.
1:01.0	She's retelling the story in 1989 alongside her partner of 46 years
1:06.6	Barbara Giddings during an interview in their living room with Eric Marcus, the
1:11.4	host of the podcast Making Gay History.
1:14.9	I have to tell you, I just, I had a breakdown over it.
1:18.6	I literally had to go to bed and lie down and I was totally weak and it was like a hammer was
1:24.8	pounding my head. So I have always hated doctors so I said well all right I'll have a
1:30.3	Christian science practitioner come and pray over this.
1:33.0	Kay let the practitioner come and try to, quote,
1:37.8	pray the gay away, but spiritual intervention
1:40.6	didn't change her sexual orientation. and so Kaye who was just 18
1:44.9	years old faced a choice.
1:47.2	Submit to the church as someone who needed to be healed or decide she didn't need
1:52.2	healing and I just decided within or decide she didn't need healing.
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