Dave and I joke that we've mastered fighting in our marriage.

Yes, we have.

But what we've really learned is that stressful situations trigger different reactive coping styles in each of us, which can really harm relationships.

Oh, yeah.

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How many times have people said like we're getting divorced,

we're just not happy anymore?

It's a choice.

My goodness, if it was my responsibility to make James happy, it's like, wait, you're putting all your

happiness on me. I don't want that responsibility. It's God that's going to give you joy and his presence

is fullness of joy. So how do you get out of a selfish perspective to a selfless perspective.

Well, I got to tell you this.

Last time we met, you drove through a snow tsunami in Little Rock.

That's how much I wanted to be with you.

Arlene Kellogg.

We are so impressed by you.

Do you remember that at all?

You know, I do remember just thinking like,

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