Four Flat Tires | BONUS | Season 2
Burden of Guilt
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4.2 • 943 Ratings
🗓️ 12 March 2026
⏱️ 6 minutes
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Summary
We meet Sam, a lifelong friend of Jermaine Hudson. Sam offers insight into how black men have been treated by the justice system. And he explains why incarceration in Angola is a dead end.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.3 | Hi, I'm Carrie Hartman, the senior producer on Burden of Guilt 2 with another bonus episode. |
| 0:11.3 | When our team visited Louisiana, we had the opportunity to meet some of Germain's childhood friends. |
| 0:17.7 | These were men he had relationships with going all the way back to elementary school, |
| 0:22.1 | and it helped to give us greater insight into Germain's young life. Before Germain saw the prison |
| 0:30.0 | walls of Angola, before the trial, the arrest, and the pain his family endured, he was just a kid |
| 0:36.5 | in the Fisher Projects, |
| 0:38.0 | a public housing development where childhood and survival unfortunately intertwined. |
| 0:43.8 | I'm stepping over by this, witnessing bodies, coming all from elementary school, |
| 0:48.9 | you've got police, amlams, fire engines, you know, because somebody was murdered. |
| 0:55.8 | It was a rough place for a kid. Well, for anyone really. The Fisher Projects was rife in |
| 1:02.0 | crime, a stomping ground for drug deals, and a place where residents sometimes had violent |
| 1:06.9 | clashes with police. It's also the place Germain met lifetime friends like Sam. |
| 1:14.1 | They were just 10-year-old kids when they first crossed paths. |
| 1:18.2 | Meet Sam. |
| 1:19.7 | Growing up in the Fisher Project, you can see somebody smoking crack in front of you. |
| 1:25.5 | Nobody liked to grow up in a project, you know, |
| 1:28.8 | but something we just had to deal with coming up young. |
| 1:33.1 | Germain and Sam attended the same school, |
| 1:35.4 | and they hung with the same crowd. |
| 1:37.2 | And for a lot of their childhood, |
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