This is an I-Heart podcast.

Guaranteed Human.

Jermaine has told us about the moments he lost while incarcerated at Angola.

But it wasn't only life that passed him by.

He also missed moments of death.

The chance to come together, to mourn, and to find solace in a community.

Who died while you were incarcerated?

I lost my older brother. I lost her favorite nephew.

He got killed. He got murdered.

I lost favorite aunties.

My oldest sister,

she used to bring my daughter,

and she was like, I'm coming to see you after New Year's.

I said, okay, I called home Christmas.

We talked that morning.

I called back home later.

It wasn't even no more than four hours later. She was dead.

They said she caught a heart attack on her job. How do you receive that news?

The chaplain department will call for you and call you in the church, and they will tell you,

your brother such and such passed away. It hadn't got to a parent to when they called me, I wouldn't even go,

because I knew why they was calling me.

But it didn't hurt me when they died because I was so numb to the fact of me being incarcerated.

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