Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SDS Nation, and welcome to another episode of Surviving The Survivor, the

podcast that promises to bring you the very best guess in true crime and even the best grandfather clocks as you can

see behind Steve Peterson we don't mess around here and we are staying on a story that is now going into its second week which you never want to hear,

especially when it comes to missing women and missing women, two missing women and missing women to missing women two moms

seemingly vanishing into thin air at the same exact time.

We are just so you know supposed to be joined potentially by Laura Engel.

She is a crime reporter with News Nation. I work with her at Fox News.

She's actually in Oklahoma right now. I've been talking to her all day and she was in at the

OSBI office today trying to get information and told me that for the time being there are no

current updates. You also last week met Dr. Michaela Samorosing she owns the

largest PI firm in the state of Oklahoma and she should be hopping on as

well shortly and if neither do for whatever reason don't worry you're in good hands because these

two have been investigating crimes for the better part of their lives so So without further ado, as I mentioned,

Laura Engel should be joining.

She is the crime reporter for News Nation.

And Jennifer Koffendoff, for a friend of the show 28 years in federal law enforcement.

Many of those years with the FBI specializing in organized crime and violent crime.

Currently she's an expert witness for Eagle Security Group and a

News Nation contributor. So she works closely with Laura in that regard and she has a new podcast out a new true crime

podcast called break the case with Jennifer Koffendofer FBI break the case with Jennifer Kofendofer FBI.

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