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Intelligence Matters

Former Senior CIA Analysts on China: Chris Johnson and John Culver

Intelligence Matters

CBS News

(154991), News, Cbs, Politics, Government

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with Former Senior CIA analysts Chris Johnson, President and CEO of China Strategies Group, and John Culver, former national intelligence officer for East Asia, about Chinese and Taiwan relations after Speaker Pelosi's trip to Taipei. Culver describes China's military response as both "unprecedented" and showing "constraints", never escalating to a point where Taiwan had to make a use of force decision. Culver discusses how a real Chinese invasion of Taiwan would involve a national mobilization of not only the People's Liberation Army but of the entire Chinese economy and society. Chris Johnson details the Chinese mindset to Speaker Pelosi's visit and the concerns China has over bills in Congress it believes would erode the one-China policy. 

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Because Xi Jinping is so firmly in charge, especially of the military, is he really weak or under pressure or is he strong in control?

0:23.1

Because it gives you a sense of what you can do in response without escalation.

0:26.4

There are a few more turns of the screw and tightening the bolts and then the PLA is going to be ready and that will drive China's decision.

0:34.0

And I think even for Xi Jinping, I think Chris characterized his consolidation of power pretty correctly.

0:39.7

But even for Xi, Taiwan is a crisis to be avoided, not an opportunity to be seized.

0:45.1

Chris Johnson is the founder and CEO of the China Strategies Group and John Culver is a senior fellow in China at the Atlantic Council.

0:57.0

Both are former senior CIA analysts on China.

1:00.3

They join me today to talk about Speaker Pelosi's recent trip to Taiwan and China's response to it.

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