Tonight, for the very first time, you're going to hear from a juror who helped convict Catherine Magbanawa in her second trial.

She is the woman that prosecutors say connected the Edelson's to the hit men who murdered Dan Markell.

So what convinced the jury?

What really happened inside that the liberation room?

And what does all this mean, if anything, for the rest of the Edelson's?

Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waltman.

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Tonight, we're diving straight back into the case, our OG case, and that is the Dan Markell murder for higher plot taken from us way too soon back on technically July 19th, even though the shooting was July 18th of 2014.

And tonight, you're going to get a rare perspective into one of the other trials, the second Katie McBanewa trial.

We have a juror who sat through every minute of that.

This is a case that finally convicted the alleged middlewoman, again, linking the Aidelsons to the hit team that, in fact, executed Dan Markell in his driveway in the most horrific of ways.

Here to help bring this to you all is the man who helped bring the juror to us.

The famed Tallahassee criminal defense attorney the letter R the word oh you are Timothy

Jansen Tim Jansen it's been a minute I don't like not seeing you for this long um we're introduced

will in just a second before we do.

You're a pit bull attorney.

You get things done.

And from what I understand, you've been telling Will, come on, come on STS for the better part of three years, which is how long we've existed.

And finally, you got him to do it. We're going to ask

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