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Former hostage responds to top diplomat calling Al Qaeda a US 'asset' in Syria

Pushback with Aaron Mate

Pushback with Aaron Maté

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4.7594 Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Support Pushback at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/aaronmate Amid a public relations campaign to rehabilitate the Al Qaeda franchise in Syria -- which rules Idlib, Syria's last militant-controlled province – former top US diplomat James Jeffrey has called the group a US "asset." Lindsey Snell, an independent journalist who escaped captivity by Al Qaeda in Syria, responds. Guest: Lindsey Snell, independent journalist covering the Middle East and North Africa. In 2016, she was kidnapped by the Al Qaeda group in Syria, what was then called al-Nusra, and escaped after 10 days.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pushback. I'm Aaron Mate. A former top U.S. official has just acknowledged what has long been the obvious.

0:10.8

The U.S. is on the same side as al-Qaeda in Syria and even sees it as, quote, an asset.

0:17.1

The official, James Jeffrey, most recently served in the Trump administration as a special envoy

0:22.8

for Syria and the anti-ISIS coalition. And Jeffrey spoke to PBS about Hayat Tahrir al-Sham,

0:29.4

or HTS, which now controls the province of Idlib. HTS grew out of Jabid al-Nusra, which was the

0:36.9

official Syrian branch of al-Qaeda.

0:39.9

And according to PBS, Jeffrey called HTS an asset to America's strategy in Idlib.

0:47.1

Jeffrey added, quote, they are the least bad option of the various options in Idlib,

0:52.8

and Idlib is one of the most important places in Syria,

0:56.4

which is one of the most important places right now in the Middle East.

1:01.3

Now, HTS, under its leader, Muhammad Al-Jalani, says that it's no longer affiliated with al-Qaeda.

1:08.1

But U.S. officials have not agreed.

1:14.1

While James Jeffrey now calls HTS an asset,

1:22.1

his predecessor, Brett McGurk, said in 2017 that Idlib is in fact the largest Al-Qaeda safe haven since 9-11. Look, Idlib province is the largest Al-Qaeda safe haven since 9-11, tied directly to Iman al-Sahiri.

1:31.0

This is a huge problem.

1:32.8

It's been a problem for some time.

1:34.6

The approach by some of our partners to send in tens of thousands of tons of weapons and looking

1:41.5

the other way as these foreign fighters come into Syria may not have been

1:44.2

the best approach. And Al-Qaeda has taken full advantage of it. And Idlib now is a huge problem.

1:50.8

It is an Al-Qaeda safe haven right on the border of Turkey. Brett McGurk is now back in the White

1:56.4

House working under President Joe Biden. And Biden himself has made a similar admission. Speaking in 2014,

2:05.1

Biden said that U.S. allies in Syria, like Turkey, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, had directly supplied

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