We're welcome everyone once again to the to the Conversations That Matter of Podcast.

I'm your host, John Harris, and I have a guest with me today to help talk about one of the largest,

if not the largest, campus, Christian campus ministry organizations crew.

And that is John Anderson.

John, I appreciate you joining me.

Yeah, good to be here, John.

And John, you were on staff. Yeah, good to be here John. Thanks for having.

John, you were on staff with crew.

For how many years were you on staff?

I was on staff about five years.

One stints in Chattanooga, Tennessee,, later in Richmond, Kentucky.

There were some rocky points, but there were still great times, and I saw it overarchingly as the big thing I took away was just be faithful

the Lord, faithful to His word, spread the good news of Christ.

And that's what I look back on the experience fondly over.

So five years, enjoyed it.

There were definitely some times that we'll get into today that were a lot tougher for me and I think tough for a lot of people.

But yeah, it was a blessed thing and I had a blessed financial and prayerful support base behind me too that I just even to this day look back on and think that was amazing.

Yeah, so that's a blessing. I mean, seeing guys live change.

Similar in some ways I think, seeing guys live change.

Similar in some ways, I think, to the experience I had at southeastern where, especially as I first got there,

I had a lot of positive experiences and love class and, um, yeah, and then, and watching the organization change has been kind of hard and

crew has of course been changing and not to go into the deep detail some people watching this probably remember after the

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