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Former British Intelligence Chief John Sawers

Amanpour

CNN

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Fighting is intensifying inside Syria, after Israel launched a powerful series of airstrikes on the capital, Damascus. And as conflict in the Middle East escalates, Russia launched more massive air strikes on Ukraine. Christiane speaks with former British Intelligence chief John Sawers about an increasingly complicated global landscape.  Also on today's show: Jason Furman, former Chairman, Council of Economic Advisers & Financial Times columnist Gillian Tett; Maryland Governor Wes Moore  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Amunpur. Here's what's coming up.

0:07.0

Israel strikes Damascus in a serious escalation in Syria. Former British spy chief John Sores explains what's at stake and the wider global context.

0:18.0

Then, is the world in a trade war yet? Do foreign governments know

0:23.3

what concessions Trump wants from them? Amid confusion over tariffs and deadlines, former White

0:29.1

House Economic Advisor Jason Furman and Global Financial columnist Gillian Tet joined me. And later,

0:35.7

The way you win elections is by actually doing what you say

0:40.0

you're going to do, and that's exactly what we've done in the state of Maryland. A Democrat stands up

0:44.6

to Trump's challenges as his national profile grows. Michel Martin speaks with Maryland, Governor

0:50.5

West Moore.

1:12.4

Welcome to the program, everyone. Welcome to the program, everyone. I'm Christian Amunpur in London.

1:18.4

Fighting is intensifying again inside Syria after Israel launched a powerful series of airstrikes on the capital of Damascus. The IDF claims the strikes are part of a commitment to defend the Druze,

1:24.3

an Arab minority, which has been loyal to Israel. But Secretary of State, Marco Rubio,

1:29.2

says the U.S. is very concerned, and they are trying to de-escalate the situation. And as conflict

1:34.5

in the Middle East escalates, Russia launched massive air strikes on Ukraine, which come just days

1:41.1

after the White House announced new military aid, including Patriot missile systems, sent via NATO.

1:48.0

President Zelensky's home city was particularly hard hit again.

1:52.6

Yet, even as the White House works with Western allies to arm Ukraine,

1:56.2

it is disrupting trade relations with the EU, threatening to impose a 30% tariff on European

2:02.5

goods starting August 1st.

2:04.4

So to assess all of this, this complicated global landscape, let us bring in Sir John Soros,

2:09.9

who served as Britain's ambassador to the UN and as chief of MI6, the Foreign Intelligence

2:15.1

Service.

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