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Exclusive: Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva

Amanpour

CNN

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva is coming out fighting against President Trump's extraordinary threat of 50% tariffs. Trump's tariffs are mostly slapped on nations that have a trade surplus with America. But Brazil has a trade deficit. So why? To settle scores for Lula's predecessor Jair Bolsonaro, now facing trial for allegedly attempting to stage a coup. The current Brazilian president joins the show from Brasilia for an exclusive interview, and says it's unacceptable for the USA, or any foreign government, to interfere in their internal affairs and their judicial process, and the best way to discuss any trade issues is around the negotiating table.   Also on today's show: Ami Ayalon, former director, Shin Bet; author Lizzie Wade ("Apocalypse")    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello everyone and welcome to Ammanpur. Here's what's coming up.

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Exclusive from Brazil, President Lula de Silva responds to Trump's threat of a crippling 50% tariff in defense of the right-wing former leader, Jaeer Bolsonaro.

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Then, more despair in Gaza after Israel apparently strikes a Catholic church and 20 people are killed in a crowd crush at an aid site.

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Ami, I alarm the former head of Israel's internal security service, Shinbet, joins me from Haifa.

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Plus, surviving apocalypse, author Lizzie Wade tells Harris Srinivasa,

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how catastrophe transformed our world. Welcome to the program, everyone. I'm Christiana Manpur in London. My first guest tonight is the Brazilian president, Luis Inacio Lula de Silva, who's come out fighting against President Trump's extraordinary threat of 50% tariffs, unless.

2:17.9

He's due to address his own nation tonight,

2:20.0

and he's given us an exclusive interview

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