So I started to begin to understand this idea that no matter what we go through in this life,

as senseless as it may seem, right? As much as it doesn't make sense, it is going to be, God's going to be this judo artist that turns it around on the enemy.

And that ultimately, we're going to experience final restoration. One day when Jesus comes back and he sets everything right, he does what J.R. Tolkien says, and he makes all things sad become untrue. Yeah. He's not going to waste our pain, Romans 8.000. You're right. So God began to rewrite that stuff in me. stuff in me. And so what I had to realize is that if I hang on to this bitterness, if I hang

on to this unforgiveness, it's going to be a cancer that destroys me.

And it is not doing anything to these three perpetrators.

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My name is Deborah Felata and I'm a licensed professional counselor, national speaker, and author.

Through my blog, books, and podcast, I have the privilege of helping millions of people get healthy mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and relationally.

The purpose of this podcast is to have on-air, authentic,

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episodes is meant to show you that we are all on the journey of healing,

mentally, emotionally, spiritually and relationally, together. None of us are immune to the challenges

and struggles of life, but we don't have to walk this path alone. I'm so proud and honored to be having these conversations

with men and women who are courageously paving the way for open and honest conversations

about their personal journey of healing. So if you're ready, let's talk.

Today on the podcast, I am so excited to have Davy Blackburn joining me to talk through some hard stuff.

But before we do that, Davey, it's good to have you.

We've chatted before, but I don't think you've ever been here in my house at the podcast.

So it's good to have you. Yeah, you've been over on my house. I know. You've been on our on our platform quite a bit. We love what you do, Debra. We love the, just the work. You're stirring things up and you're helping all of us to feel like, hey, listen, this is, this counseling setting is something that we all need to be very cognizant of. We need a great space for it so that we can all walk through life full and healed.

And we just show up as better versions of ourselves. And so we have just always loved what you do

and the messages that you're carrying. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, it's so good to have you.

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