Forgiveness is optional
The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Vox Media Podcast Network
4.5 • 11.1K Ratings
🗓️ 15 December 2025
⏱️ 70 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Support for this show comes from Odu. |
| 0:03.0 | Running a business is hard enough, so why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other? |
| 0:09.7 | Introducing Odu, it's the only business software you'll ever need. |
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| 0:25.6 | for a fraction of the cost. |
| 0:27.8 | That's why over thousands of businesses have made the switch. |
| 0:31.1 | So why not you? |
| 0:32.4 | Try O-D-O-4-free at O-D-O-O-O-O.com. That's ODOO.com. |
| 0:40.8 | 2020 |
| 0:45.3 | was a wild year for the tech industry. |
| 0:48.4 | AI seemed like it took over everyone's brains. |
| 0:51.1 | It was the only thing anyone wanted to talk about. |
| 0:53.1 | InVIDIA became the most valuable company in the world. We had some huge new video games. The Switch 2 launched a lot of |
| 0:59.6 | people got it. There was just a lot going on. And on the Vergecast, we are talking about the best, |
| 1:05.2 | the worst, the most important, the biggest heel turns, all the stuff that happened in 2025. |
| 1:13.0 | And making maybe a few predictions about what's going to happen next year. All that and more on the Vergecast, wherever you |
| 1:17.8 | get podcasts. This series is presented by Jira by Atlassian. |
| 1:25.9 | Hey, it's Sean. I'm just popping in here at the top of the episode to be awkward as hell. |
| 1:32.7 | And honestly, to toot my horns just a little bit. |
| 1:37.1 | 2025 has been a rough year in a lot of ways, but it's been a great year for the gray area. Our listening audience, that's all of you, |
| 1:48.2 | has grown by 30% this year, which is huge, sort of unheard of, I think. And that's not counting |
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