It has to be some common sense.

Yes, sir. They have the car stopped in 10th and branch, Michael Byther.

We still don't know who pulled the trigger. Hello everyone and welcome to Police Off the Cuff Real Crime Stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon, the 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

Folks, we have an unbelievable show tonight.

Of course, we're reporting upon the arrest in the Gilgo Beach case, But we have a very, very special guest tonight.

I was surprised I was able to get her.

But I called her first, as this was just happening,

before her phone started ringing off the hook.

And I got her on the phone real early.

And tonight we have, as our guest, Dr. Joni Johnston.

She's a forensic psychologist, a private investigator, a crime writer.

She has her own podcast called Unmasking a Murderer, a YouTube channel and a producer, author of serial killers, 101 questions.

True Crime Fans asks.

Dr. Joni Johnson has an interest in the link between law and psychology.

As a forensic psychologist and private investigator, she specializes in criminal forensic work

and conducts violence risk assessments,

mitigation evaluations, insanity evaluations, and incompetency to stand trial assessments.

She's currently a blogger for psychology today, the human equation, co-host a forensic radio podcast,

threat of evidence, and she's the host and produces a true crime YouTube channel.

Again, we mentioned it before on masking a murder, murderer,

and she's written three books,

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