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Jeff Mosher from the Inside the Birds podcast and Philly Voice.com joins us right now on the first day of training camp.

Now, Mosher, you and I often joke the summer is over it is over no i

refuse to believe it mike it's not over it's training camp you know what i'm going to make a provision

the summer isn't over until pads come out at training camp and then when you and I talk on the day that pads come out in training camp,

I'm going to say the summer's not over until the first preseason game is over.

And I might have seen after that.

Right.

That's the seventh, by the way, the first preseason game.

Howie and Nick spoke earlier today.

The Eagles were back on the field.

I think the big takeaway there was,

were you surprised that Jahad Campbell was on the field and practicing in limited capacity?

But he was out there and ready to go, something we weren't sure.

Well, yeah, two surprises that he was going to be out there because Vic Fangio alluded to him not being ready until August.

So maybe Vic has telling you that summer's over, or at least it's early of August.

And then the second surprise was that they said he was going to be limited,

but to my knowledge, it looked like he pretty much participated in all of the team drills as well.

Now, there's no pads out.

So I'm guessing limited to them,

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