So the title of this conversation, the sub-title of conversation with a mystic.

That's only for you.

I'm not conversing with a mystic, so I am at ease.

That's my job.

That's my job.

Got it.

I know, and I have many questions, you know.

I'm sad gurus that I've never seen, I've never seen someone with so many questions.

There's no answers, only questions.

I think the sub-text, which I actually am talking about because I liked it, is an experiential

for today, an experiential symposium on optimal health and well-being.

And I think there's a tremendous amount for us to talk about, even in that phrase.

One is the role of experience, and I will say that, you know, by office being responsible

for cultural transformation, I've become obsessed with what is culture.

And the definition that I use because it guides our strategies is behavior, this definition

was given to me by Admiral Grossenbacher, is behavior either collective or individual

behavior based in experience and incentives.

Meaning that if we're going to transform or shift what the medical model is today and

what health care is today, we can't start with just the data.

If people do not have an inner experience, not much will change.

Do you, can you say some about what you think the role of experience is in today and in

health care?

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