Hey friends, Stephen here. I've got a new follow-up episode for you today. This is a bonus episode

that is available right now for patrons who support the Nugget climbing podcast on patreon.com.

I'll talk more about that in a second. My follow-up today is with Matt Fultz. Matt is absolutely

crushing it right now. I've had him on

the show before. He was in episode 39, and we talked about his send of hypnotized minds, V-16.

He's sent four additional V-16s in the last couple years, and he's at the top of his game,

and it was super fun to catch up with Matt.

I was really curious with Matt to geek out about training for really small holds.

Matt is a really strong, muscular climber and has climbed two of the hardest crimp boulders in the world.

And I was really curious to hear how he goes about his training,

what types of hangboarding exercises he does, what types of climbing training he does to get his

fingers strong enough to climb on tiny, tiny crimps on things like hypnotized minds and

brace for the cure, which is Matt's most recent V-16 first descent up in Rocky Mountain National Park. So that's what we

geeked out about in this conversation. We talked about what he's been up to in the last couple

years since our last conversation, why he thinks the spray wall is the gold standard for training

and how he uses it in his go-to sessions on the spray wall for himself and that he

recommends for his clients. We talked about takeaways from his finger injury last year and what

he learned from that. We talked about how he incorporates hangboarding and using no hang implements

into his week. Favorite hangboard and no hang protocols to get his fingers strong why he does

most of his finger training on 20 mil edges pretty big edges relative to some of the holds that he's

climbing on and why he rarely trains on holds smaller than 10 millimeters that was super interesting

and i found it really helpful for myself in guiding my training moving

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