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This is CBS Eye in the World, I'm John Batchel with the Buster General Course Fund,

Brett Forest. His new book is Lost Some, an American family trapped inside the FBI's

Secret Wars. It is now the summer of 2018. Brett is in Rostov and Don. He's meeting with a

woman named Nastya Anastasia, Mikhailovskaya, and they're talking about where did Billy go.

Brett, at this point, you've been told by more than one Russian, well-meaning Russian,

he's disappeared into Russia, or you'll find him someday, or he'll come home. There's even the

possibility that he's gone to the far east to meet up with one of his contacts from those years

of surfing for the FBI. But Mikhailovskaya has another fate for, or at least because she's a good

mystery writer, she has another idea of fate. What is it? Nastya and I were sitting on a veranda

that sort of jutted out into the Don River one summer afternoon that year. We were at a hotel that

was sort of Cossack style hotel. They were large iron cannons that still worked

that were at the hotel and the staff wore Cossack tunics. A very interesting place.

You felt the intrigue there, especially because Rostov on Don. At that point, especially was this

the staging point for all of Russia's military activities in the Ukraine and east.

Nastya and I were sitting there and I asked her what she thought had happened to Billy and she said

very bluntly. She said, well, they would have taken him into custody, tortured him for information,

and then thrown his body somewhere in a lake in LNR or DNR, one of the so-called republics in

Eastern Ukraine. That was it. It was one quick sentence. She didn't think twice and it made me think.

And that no one else has come up with remarks. In fact, they're very promising where

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