Gary Thomas knows a lot of people are tempted to see the best in others and the worst in their own spouses.

Has comparing a spouse's weakness to another spouse's strengths ever made a single spouse happier?

And has it ever motivated your spouse to change?

This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Wogelmuth, author of Lies Women Believe,

for February 13, 2018.

Yesterday, Nancy began talking with Lisa and Gary Thomas about cherishing one another in marriage.

This program was recorded when Nancy was on the road, and there were some technical difficulties.

But stick with the rough recording because this is such a meaningful conversation.

Here's Nancy.

Thank you for joining us today on Revive Our Hearts for a conversation I know is going to be of great interest to you, especially if you're married.

But let me say if you're single, don't tune out because there are important principles here

if you ever will be married or if you know any married people

and are part of their journey in just helping them to love the Lord and each other more.

This is going to be a really helpful program.

I'm so thankful to welcome back to Revive Our Hearts today, Lisa and Gary Thomas.

Thank you for taking time out of your day here in Houston to come and share with

our Reviver Hearts audience. Thanks, Nancy. And Gary is on the staff at Second Baptist Church of

Houston. He's an author. He's a conference speaker. You may have heard him or read his books.

If you haven't read his books, I hope that you will after hearing

this conversation. And they've been married 33 years, have three adult children and have lived

in different parts of the country. And now your kids are in, you don't have any kids here in

Houston, do you, Lisa? Oh, you do not? They're scattered across the country in Boston, Philadelphia, and north of Seattle. So really spread apart. Once you have a lot of grandchildren, somebody may be considering moving. I don't know. That seems to change a lot of things for people. But I've been so blessed. Robert and I have early in our marriage, Gary, by the books that you've written on marriage. And, you know, I've

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