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Politics Unpacked

Focus Group: Martin Lewis For PM

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News, Politics, News & Politics

4.11.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Swing voters from across England give their verdict on Rishi Sunak, Keir Starmer and explain why they'd rather have consumer expert Martin Lewis at Number 10. The good news for the prime minister is they've heard of his five pledges, the bad news is they don't think he can deliver on them - and are in a mood for change. Matt is joined by James Johnson of J.L. Partners to analyse their verdict.


Plus: Columnists Daniel Finkelstein and Henry Zeffman discuss whether Conservatives should ever intervene to make things cheaper, why there hasn't been a Labour reshuffle, and whether the Tory path to victory is now improbably narrow.


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0:00.0

Hello, this is the Red Box podcast. I'm Matt jolly bringing the best of my times radio show. You can listen live on your DAB radio on your smart speaker or on your times radio app

0:09.3

It's our third birthday on times radio this week

0:11.2

So if you haven't yet listened to it on the actual radio

0:14.3

Why don't give us a go? Right coming up on today's episode is absolute cracker the times radio focus group is convened

0:20.4

James Johnson forming number 10 pollster is in the hot seat

0:23.3

I'll be honest is pretty bad for the tour is possibly what the best we've had for labor

0:26.4

It's a must listen that's coming up in just a moment

0:28.6

But talking of must listen we kick off with these two

0:38.6

In a world of politics without the boring bits get ready for blockbuster debate on times radio

0:46.8

One is the wise voice of experience the other the young genius

0:51.5

Learning from the master together. They are

0:55.2

Finkelstein and Zeffman Daniel Finkelstein

1:07.5

It's a site found there from Henry's effort

1:10.2

It's like found at the Scooby-Doo music. You are the Scooby-Doo and scrappy of music. I believe both of the live action movies from the early

1:19.9

Naughties are severely underrated. Are they? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I haven't seen them since I ate any political trivia

1:26.2

Connections with Scooby-Doo you're on our first. No, but give me

1:29.7

Well, it's extraordinary that you would describe the live action movies because of your age as being the sort of canon

1:37.9

No, I also saw the cartoon

1:41.0

You'll go to

1:42.6

No, and we should thank you actually because it was your knowledge of Wallace and Cllabit theme tune music

1:47.9

Which pops us to do it into a job not last week

1:50.2

Which I'm sure is not a sentence he'd have envisaged happening 30 years later when he was defense secretary Margaret such as cabinet

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