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Science Vs

Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

Science Vs

Spotify Studios

Science, Education, Health & Fitness

4.411.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

The battle over whether we should be putting fluoride in our water has reached fever pitch. We’ve got U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and anti-fluoride activists saying it’s a neurotoxin that’s lowering our IQs. But supporters say that fluoride is a safe and effective way to protect our teeth from cavities, and that stopping water fluoridation would lead to a spike in tooth decay. To find out who’s right, we talk to epidemiologist Dr. Ashley Malin and community health scientist Professor Lindsay McLaren.  Find our transcript here: https://bit.ly/ScienceVsFluoride  In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Chapter 1: Why did we start water fluoridation?  (07:00) Chapter 2: What can fluoride do at really high levels?  (11:18) Chapter 3: Can low doses of fluoride affect the brain?  (20:41) Chapter 4: Anything else to worry about? (24:53) Chapter 5: Does fluoride in the water protect our teeth? This episode was produced by Meryl Horn, with help from Wendy Zukerman, Rose Rimler, Michelle Dang, and Ekedi Fausther-Keeys. We’re edited by Blythe Terrell. Mix and sound design by Bobby Lord. Fact checking by Erica Akiko Howard. Music written by Bumi Hidaka, Peter Leonard, Emma Munger, So Wylie, and Bobby Lord. Thanks to all the researchers we spoke to for this episode, including Professor Christine Till, Professor Jonathan Broadbent, Dr. John Morris, Professor Bruce Lanphear, Professor Loc Do, Dr. Maria Kipper, Professor Philippe Hujoel, Professor Stephen Peckham, Dr. Tommaso Filippini, and Professor Steven Levy.  Science Vs is a Spotify Studios Original. Listen for free on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us and tap the bell for episode notifications. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman and you're listening to Science Verses.

0:05.1

Today on the show, we are pitting facts against fluoride.

0:09.8

Should we put it in the water?

0:16.2

To tell us all about it, senior producer Merrill Horn, hello.

0:20.5

Hi.

0:21.3

Okay, there's so much controversy right now around water fluoridation.

0:26.6

I know.

0:27.5

Which we'll get to.

0:28.9

Okay.

0:29.3

But first, I have to tell you the, like, wild and surprising story about why we started putting fluoride in the water in the first place. Because it is

0:39.6

kind of weird that we do this, right? I guess so. How did it all start? Well, it's actually a

0:46.1

detective story. It starts in 1901. So, picture a young dentist, Frederick McKay moves to Colorado Springs.

0:59.3

And he starts seeing patients and immediately notices that there's something weird going on.

1:05.2

A lot of his patients have dark brown stains on their teeth.

1:10.4

He writes that the color was sometimes dirty or an almost ebony black.

1:17.3

Mm.

1:18.2

Do you want to see pictures?

1:20.1

Of course I do.

1:21.1

All right.

1:22.3

Oh, it's a real black line, thick line across their teeth.

1:30.2

That is unsightly.

1:32.5

Yeah.

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