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The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Fleeing climate change

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

Politics, Society & Culture, News

0.00 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

As the COP27 climate talks wrap up in Egypt, we’re turning our attention to an issue that got less attention at the summit than you might expect: the growing number of people having to flee their homes as a result of climate change. What role does Europe have to play in all this, both in terms of finding solutions and as a major driver of climate change in the first place? This week we find out with the help of Alexandre Porteret of the European Commission’s Civil Protection and Humanitarian Aid Operations department, and François Gemenne of the Hugo Laboratory, the world’s first interdisciplinary research centre focusing on how climate change impacts migration.

This episode was supported by the European Commission, with coordination from Are We Europe.

Producer: Katz Laszlo

Scoring and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak

Music: BlueDot Sessions and Epidemic Sounds

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi K.T.

0:07.0

Hi, K. How are you doing? Hi Katie.

0:23.5

Hello, Dominic. How are you doing?

0:24.9

I am fine, thank you. How are you, Katie Lee?

0:27.8

I am also fine. Why are we talking like robots today?

0:31.2

I don't know. Maybe it's because we're going to talk about something a bit serious.

0:34.6

We don't have to be formal just because we're talking about something serious.

0:40.9

Okay, I'll try my best. But anyway, yes, we're doing something a little bit different this week, business. We're going to be doing a bit of a deep dive on something that we've been

0:45.2

thinking about a lot lately. It's not the jolliest thing we've ever talked about, but it is really

0:51.2

interesting and important, and we can't always talk about jolly things,

0:54.6

can we?

0:55.2

We can't, sadly.

0:56.5

As you are listening to this, tens of thousands of officials and protesters and lobbyists

1:03.1

are wrapping up the COP 27 climate talks in Egypt.

1:08.4

These are the latest in the yearly United Nations climate change conferences

1:13.3

where all these people get together to discuss what we can do to save this planet from climate

1:20.0

destruction and how we can keep as much of the planet as habitable as possible. And there's one subject that's been creeping up the agenda,

1:30.1

and that is climate migration, people having to leave their homes because of the kind of natural

1:35.1

disasters that are happening more and more often due to climate change.

1:39.4

Pakistan now, the UN Secretary General, is calling it a monsoon on steroids. The floods are the worst in the

1:46.5

nation's history. More than a thousand people have been killed and millions of people have been

1:51.1

displaced. Many families in Central America, it is a choice between migration and starvation. And more

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