Monster House Presents. Welcome to Monster Talk Flashback. I'm recording this on June 22nd, 2025.

I think I've mentioned plenty of times in the past few weeks that this year's kind of kicking Team Smith pretty hard.

We're dealing with some complicated issues right now. I got a family member on hospice care and we have one that's going

to move in with us and somehow I'm supposed to be going on a cruise during all this and my got job

stress and blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, life. Anyway, in an effort to save some of my sanity, I'm going to be pulling from our archives

for the next few weeks until things hopefully settle down. We plan to keep on recording new stuff,

even while this is going on. But for the next four or five weeks, I will be dusting off some

oldies from way back. And I know a lot of you will not have heard these before. I'm also trying to

level out the audio. It seems I wasn't really great at that when we started out, or I wasn't,

as my wife would correct me. And finally, I'm working on a project to load the back catalog

without any ads into the Patreon fee, but that's going to be later this year and probably done in batches.

I've got to teach my kids the family business so that they can help with the load and learn some useful skills.

So to kick off this summer series, let's return to the thrilling days of yesteryear

when my friend Joe Nickel was still alive and I had just celebrated my 44th birthday,

this little ditty comes to us from October of 2013 and features Joe Nickel and Steve Novella

from the Skeptics Guide to the Universe podcast.

I know a lot of people have written me in about this episode, so if it's new to you,

I hope you learn a lot and enjoy it.

If it's old to you, I hope you don't mind hearing it again.

It has been a minute.

Monster Talk.

On December 18, 1975, George and Kathy Lutz and their three children moved into a house in

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