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Flame "sensing" - Short 136

HVAC School - For Techs, By Techs

Bryan Orr

Education, Business, Self-improvement, Careers

4.91K Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2021

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

In this short podcast, Bryan explains the basics of flame sensing, also known as flame rectification.

Flame sensing/rectification is a form of proving flame. When you can't prove flame, your furnace might be dumping unspent gas into the heat exchanger, which can cause an explosion.

Flame sensing rods are common in hot-surface (HSI) and intermittent-spark (ISI) ignition. These rods stick out into the flame and connect to the furnace board. The flame creates a path between the rod and ground, which allows a very small current to flow to the board. Without a flame, there is voltage but no path, so the board can't sense a current and will shut the gas valve off to try again. 

Sensing rods can fail when they short out due to a cracked insulator, are physically broken, aren't placed in the flame, or get covered in silica or carbon. If the furnace or burner assembly isn't properly grounded, then the flame sensor also won't work.

Flame sensing rods are often confused with thermopiles or thermocouples; the latter devices generate voltage and have a coating that can rub off with improper cleaning. Flame sensing rods don't have either of these features, so you can clean these by any means necessary (without breaking them or creating grooves or pits).

To test a flame sensing rod, begin by making sure the furnace is properly grounded. Then, make sure the rod is in the right spot and that the burner assembly is in good order. Get a microamp meter (with a resolution that reads tenths of microamps). Then, connect your leads in series with the flame rod. 

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Bibity-bobbibibbibbiboo this is the HVAC school podcast and this is a short episode on

0:08.6

flame sensing otherwise known as flame rectification now there are other types of flame sensing and I'm going to talk about a few of them.

0:15.6

So don't kill the messenger here. I know that your old school flame rectification is not the only

0:20.8

method, but we're going to talk through it. But before we do that, let's thank our great

0:24.9

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0:32.4

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0:44.6

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0:48.3

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0:50.6

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0:57.8

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1:04.7

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1:06.4

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1:10.8

Mitsubishi Electric at Mitsubishi Comfort.com.

1:15.0

Let's first talk about why proving flame is such an important part of any sort of gas

1:21.5

appliance and when we say proving flame,

1:24.2

we're not just specifically talking about flame sensing

1:27.2

or flame rectification.

1:28.2

This is just any type of flame proving.

1:30.3

So that could be your old school standing pilot thermocouple it could be a

1:34.9

CAD cell whatever we're using in order to prove flame it's important because

1:40.0

without proof of flame you risk dumping unspent gas into the heat exchanger and that can result in an explosion.

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