FKN Classics Double Feature! | Mark Gober - End to Upside Down | Dean McMurray - PSI Real Estate
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🗓️ 20 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | Today I want to welcome Mark Gober. He is author of several books, including an into Upside Down Thinking, which won the IPPI Award for Best Science Book of the Year. |
| 0:15.8 | He is host of the podcast, Where is My Mind? And additionally, he serves on the board of Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell's Institute of Noetic Sciences. |
| 0:27.6 | Mark, welcome. How you doing? |
| 0:30.7 | I'm great, Chris. Thank you for having me. |
| 0:32.4 | Thank you so much for coming on, man. The research and work you're doing, I believe, is essential. It's changing the |
| 0:39.3 | world. And after many years of exploring topics like UFOs, paranormal, occult science, magic |
| 0:47.2 | metaphysics and all those fun woo-woo topics, I'm really now on the path of the human mind and |
| 0:53.8 | it's incredible capabilities. |
| 0:56.0 | I do believe all is mind and our individual and collective capabilities are forever evolving |
| 1:03.0 | and the possibilities of what can be achieved are beyond anything known to modern science and technology. |
| 1:11.5 | At this point, maybe it always will be. |
| 1:14.8 | Maybe there's always infinite layers to peel through and we'll never have a true understanding of it all. |
| 1:20.8 | I love this topic. |
| 1:22.5 | We're going to once again have a deep exploration of the powers of the human consciousness. Before we do, this is your |
| 1:29.5 | first time on. Tell us about yourself and what led you on your path. Well, I am very much |
| 1:36.4 | interested in the same topics that you just mentioned, but that wasn't always the case for me. |
| 1:42.2 | A very traditional background. |
| 1:44.8 | I went to Princeton undergrad, went into investment banking in New York after I graduated. |
| 1:49.7 | And then I worked in Boston and then Silicon Valley advising technology-focused companies. |
| 1:55.3 | And while I was in Silicon Valley, I had an awakening of sorts where I was listening to podcasts, then reading books and reading |
| 2:02.5 | scientific papers that pointed to ideas about the nature of consciousness and mind that |
| 2:07.8 | challenged the way I looked at life with my more conventional view. |
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