Hello and welcome to being well. I'm Forrest Hanson. If you're new to the podcast, thanks for listening today. And if you've listened before, welcome back. Today I'm here with a very special guest. Back by popular demand, I asked the people on YouTube who they wanted to see more of

this year. And they all said this person, uh, associate therapist and very importantly, my

fiance, Elizabeth Ferreira. So Elizabeth, how are you doing? Wow, what a, what an introduction.

I had to roll out the red carpet for you. I mean, you really, I really, you're a podcast celebrity. I know, you're who the people live. You know, they come for, for me and Rick, they stay for you. We're really flying by the scene of our fans today. I'm feeling loose, I guess. So today we wanted to talk about something that came out of conversations that we've just been having with each other. Our kitchen conversations. Our kitchen conversations about work that we're doing with clients. I do a little bit of coaching work. Elizabeth does a lot of therapy work with people. And some of the themes that we were finding in that also reflected our personal experience. And some of the stuff that we've bumped into as a couple in addition to

people who kind of work in the world of mental health. And so we thought we would kind of bundle

all of that together and have a bit of a conversation about it today. So I want to start with you,

actually. I want to, we're flipping roles a little bit. Fliping the script on me here. You know,

much to probably, you know, Rick, who saw this coming years ago.

Years ago. Finally, Forrest is coaching and sitting with people and having that experience.

Like, I think generally people kind of view you as this very logical, not so much a touchy-feely kind of guy, you know, very into...

Pretty rational.

Rational.

I like learning.

I like knowing things, stuff like that.

And it's been interesting watching you sit with other people that kind of identify in that way.

And kind of, I don't know, sometimes you have this joking, like, chagrin kind of energy to it, but coming out of your sessions being like, man,

I've just sort of turned into Mr. Rogers here.

It's so true.

I've become the warm and fuzzy, very humanistic type person.

I think in part because the people who often seek me out to work with me see that more logical, rational, I can take this guy

seriously, it feels like he knows his stuff, aspect of who I am, which is true. I also have that

as a big part of my personality. But then what emerges in the work together is these are people

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