Five years on from the Jan 6 riots, how has the US president changed America?
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🗓️ 6 January 2026
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Summary
Today marks five years since the Jan 6 storming of the Capitol, and nearly one year of Trump 2.0. How has the US president already changed American democracy?
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Guest: David Charter, assistant editor (US), The Times.
Host: Manveen Rana.
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| 0:00.0 | From the Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story. |
| 0:05.8 | I'm Manvien Rana. |
| 0:11.8 | I was here in Washington on January 6, 2021, and watching the events of that day unfold in real time, of course. |
| 0:21.9 | And only count the electors who have been lawfully slated. |
| 0:26.7 | Lots of angry speeches followed by the march on Congress. |
| 0:30.1 | Everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building |
| 0:33.2 | to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. |
| 0:38.5 | Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong. |
| 0:42.5 | And then a mass assault on the seat of American democracy |
| 0:46.2 | by the supporters of the losing candidate in the election. |
| 1:03.0 | Thank you. David Charter is an assistant editor of the Times, based in Washington, D.C., where he's covered American politics for seven years. |
| 1:07.0 | I just remember struggling to process the enormity of what I was seeing. |
| 1:12.6 | Police from the Capitol! |
| 1:14.6 | Hey my! |
| 1:16.6 | Hey, black! |
| 1:17.6 | Not just the mob pushing through the barriers and fighting with the police and breaking into Congress, But guns drawn on the floor of the House of Representatives |
| 1:31.3 | and appeals for intervention from President Trump that he just took an age to act on. |
| 1:37.3 | And I thought afterwards, there's no way back for Donald Trump. |
| 1:41.3 | There's no way he could return to politics, let alone the White House. |
| 1:46.0 | And I wasn't alone. Many senior Republicans were disowning him that day and in the days following. |
| 1:53.0 | When it comes to accountability, the President needs to understand that his actions were the problem, not the solution. |
| 2:06.6 | That the rally yesterday was unseemly. It got out of hand. |
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