Five Shots in the Dark | Memory Palace | S3-E1

Suspect

Wondery | Campside

True Crime, Chameleon, Arpana Jinaga, Over My Dead Body, Matthew Shaer, The Shrink Next Door, Exhibit C, Eric Benson

4.2 • 6.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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On a misty August night in 1998, a young man named Kasey Schoen was shot in downtown Indianapolis. Now – 24 years later – attorney, Lara Bazelon, reopens the case and uncovers a botched investigation based almost entirely on the memories of two eyewitness testimonies.

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0:00.0	Wundery Plus subscribers can binge all episodes of Suspect, Ad Free right now.
0:05.0	Join Woundery Plus in the Woundery app or on Apple Podcasts. A long time ago I remember watching an episode of Oprah about eyewitness testimony.
0:25.0	Actually, I haven't been able to find the episode in question online.
0:29.0	This would have been like three decades ago when I was a kid, home from school, watching TV, it's entirely possible I imagine
0:36.4	parts of it. But in my memory, Oprah, without telling anyone, has this guy run on stage and
0:42.2	snatch up a purse belonging to one of the panelists.
0:45.0	And then afterwards, Oprah asks everyone to identify the thief, but no one can.
0:51.0	Each person Oprah asks, they've got a different answer as to what the guy looked like.
0:56.5	I don't remember how the show ended. I probably went off and played some duck hunt, but it lodged in my head. As I got older, started working in journalism, and writing about the
1:06.3	criminal justice system, it would periodically pop back into my head, a reminder of just
1:12.3	how fallible the human eye and memory can be.
1:16.7	So wait, let me just back up.
1:17.9	Okay, tell me when you first noticed the truck.
1:20.4	Oh, probably like it was maybe a block and a half north of there.
1:28.4	But it was just driving down Pennsylvania past where I was out of my V8.
1:32.8	Do you think it stopped and then went around again
1:36.0	or do you think it just went by you, went around,
1:38.4	and came back around?
1:39.9	The Oprah segment came to mind the first time
1:41.8	I heard this tape, which was recorded near Indianapolis
1:44.7	in 2022. The details aren't really important, not yet. For now, all you need to know is that the
1:51.6	first voice belongs to Laura Bazelon.
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