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The Times Tech Podcast

Five Questions with... Louis Hyman

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2018

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Louis Hyman, Cornell University professor and author of the book Temp, to answer five big about the present and future of work in the age of automation: 1. Is technological progress bad for workers? (2:45). 2. How does reality differ from the myth of automation? (7:00), 3. Is the corporation dead? (14:30), 4. Are unions also going extinct? (25:10), and 5. What does history tell us about the future of work? (28:35).

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0:00.0

Yo, technology.

0:02.9

What is it all about?

0:04.5

It's pretty patronizing the idea that the only people who are valuable are the people who can

0:08.6

code those, that automated future.

0:12.9

And eventually someone's going to automate the automators, and then I wonder who's

0:16.4

going to be valued them.

0:21.8

Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from deep inside the Silicon

0:27.1

Valley Future Machine.

0:28.9

I am your host, Danny Fortson, the West Coast correspondent for the Sunday Times, and this

0:35.3

week we have a fabulous guest for you.

0:38.3

Lewis Hyman is with us, and Hyman is an economic historian at Cornell University.

0:43.9

He's also the author of a fascinating new book called Temp, as in Temporary Worker.

0:49.9

And given that we reside on opposite coasts, separated by 3,000 miles or so of amber waves of grain,

0:57.0

we did this over Skype.

0:59.0

So if you hear a difference in the audio, that is why.

1:01.0

But I think you will enjoy this.

1:03.0

It's a bit of a deep dive into the present and future of work in this age of automation.

1:09.0

And I think it will make you think about your own job, your own job security.

1:15.4

And if you have kids, it will definitely make you think about their education and not just the

1:21.4

work world that awaits them, but the world that awaits them.

1:25.1

Oh, yeah.

1:26.1

So I fired five big questions at Professor Hyman.

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