Fitting in With Other Christian Churches | A Discussion with Jeff McCullough
Leading Saints Podcast
Leading Saints
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🗓️ 28 February 2024
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Jeff McCullough is a Protestant, Evangelical Pastor with the Christian and Missionary Alliance. He is the creator of a YouTube channel called Hello Saints where he chronicles his journey learning about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from a Protestant, Evangelical perspective. He’s married with four children and recently relocated to Utah from St. Louis He completed his undergraduate degree in Digital Media from a Free-Methodist school called Greenville University and received a masters in Biblical Studies from Moody Theological Seminary in Chicago. He has worked in pastoral ministry for over 15 years.

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3:10 Kurt introduces his discussion with Pastor Jeff from Hello Saints Youtube channel and podcast. 5:15 Will The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the evangelical church ever merge? What would it look like? 7:50 Kurt’s background and starting Leading Saints 9:20 Kurt shares his insights on the evangelical faith as he has interacted with Jeff and they have had lots of discussions 11:15 Jeff’s wrestle with Latter-day Saint doctrine and all the doctrine that has been added in latter-day times. Evangelicals focus on the Bible. 14:30 How Jeff and Kurt have come together to share their faith and learn to be open to other faiths. 18:20 Are Mormons Christian? Why do people think we are so different? How we look at Jesus differently. 23:30 Jeff shares a perception that he had that Latter-day Saints are so focused on works, ordinances, and covenants that there’s zero concept of grace. 24:40 Kurt articulates what grace is to him and how LDS members see grace and how ordinances and covenants play into grace. 27:30 Will the LDS and evangelical faiths ever merge? What things would we need to overcome? 34:00 Evangelicals can’t get on board with things like modern-day prophets and the Book of Mormon but what things can we come together on? Aligning politically and culturally. 38:20 The difference between Latter-day Saints and evangelicals when a member of the family leaves the faith 41:20 Learn to be comfortable with the hard conversations and topics that come when comparing and talking about different religions and faith. There might be tension but we can sit in that tension and still be friends. 42:30 You don’t have to be a gospel scholar to be having these conversations on faith. At the end of the day, Kurt and Jeff have a genuine, authentic friendship and that is what it’s about. It’s about loving one another.
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| 0:00.0 | It's finally available. I've been working on a manuscript for the past four years and it is finally a book I can hold in my hands. It's titled, Is God Disappointed in |
| 0:16.0 | me? Removing Shame from the Gospel of Grace. This book has gotten so much |
| 0:20.9 | attention that it is already a number one Amazon bestseller. |
| 0:25.1 | I'm beyond amazed. In just a few words I wrote, is God disappointed in me |
| 0:30.6 | for Latter-day Saints who often feel overwhelmed by the Gospel and who are constantly |
| 0:36.0 | worrying if they are doing enough. It's for the Latter-day Saints who have stepped away from |
| 0:41.0 | the Church. It's for the individuals who appear to be living right |
| 0:45.1 | but still can't find peace and happiness. |
| 0:47.8 | And frankly, it's for everyone who enjoys listening |
| 0:50.9 | to the leading Saints podcast. You will love and cherish this book. |
| 0:55.6 | Now warning, you might want to consider purchasing multiple copies to share. One Bishop |
| 1:00.9 | who got an advanced copy, read it in one weekend, and then literally purchased 100 additional copies. |
| 1:07.0 | You can order it on Amazon, the link is in the show notes, or starting in March, you can find it in your local Costco in Idaho, Utah, and Arizona. |
| 1:16.0 | It's called, Is God Disappointed to Me, and you can order it now. |
| 1:25.0 | I got an email the other day from an individual, I forget where he is in the world, |
| 1:30.0 | but he says, Kurt, I love leading Saints and I listen to it every time I'm on the treadmill. |
| 1:36.0 | And then one time during an interview he heard that Leading Saints has a YouTube channel |
| 1:40.9 | and like all the interviews, at least the vast majority of them are video recorded |
| 1:46.0 | and you can watch the video recording of the podcast episodes. |
| 1:49.9 | And I'm like yeah man get there, go subscribe on YouTube to |
| 1:53.4 | leading Saints and you can get a visual of the interview |
| 1:57.2 | and not just an audio experience. |
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