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Hi everybody, welcome to Shift, podcast about mobility.

I'm Pete Bigelow, your host, and reporter at the Automotive News.

Today we bring you part two of our interview is Shane Stevens, co-founder and

chief business development officer at First Element Fuel, the company that's

been building and operating hydrogen fueling stations in California for about a decade now.

In today's part, we get into how hydrogen-powered vehicles really compare and contrast to

battery electrics. But first, we have a look at this week's headlines and for that I'm joined by my

colleague Hannah Lutz. Hi Hannah how are you today? Hi Pete doing well how are you?

Doing pretty good.

Hannah, let's kick this off.

I know you had a big story, a series of stories that ran earlier this week on EV economics.

I'm curious if you can fill us in on that. this week on EV economics.

I'm curious if you can fill us in on that

and some of the reaction or feedback

that you got from the package.

Yeah, we ran this big package on really the economics of owning an EV and looked at it state by state.

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