Hi everyone, it's Megna here with a special first-person podcast episode for your on-point

feed.

Today, in the main hour program, we talked about deep fakes and national security.

You already know how fake pictures and audio and video can make celebrities say things

they didn't really say, or in the other case, make fake news look very real.

But what happens when governments start using deep fakes against each other?

That's what we talked about in the main hour show.

And we have a really potent example of deep fakes and national security.

It's the story of what recently happened to Bill Browder.

Back in late 2008, Browder was in London, watching helplessly as his friend and lawyer, 37-year-old

Sergei Magnitsky had been arrested and thrown into Moscow's Butirka prison.

I mean, I can't even describe how upsetting it is to have somebody who works for you

taking hostage.

Because there's not a moment that you can feel happiness or relaxation or anything, because

you just know that, well, you're in your own bed, he's sleeping on a stone cot.

While you're taking a shower, he's not allowed to shower.

While you're sitting in a warm room, he's sitting in a room nearly freezing to death.

This is Browder telling the story to the independent media company London Real.

Up until 2005, Bill Browder had been a hedge fund manager who worked in Moscow and was among

the largest private investors in all of Russia.

But then his lawyer, Sergei Magnitsky, had found evidence implicating Russian officials

in massive corruption schemes and also implicating them in having connections with the Russian

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