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Hank Unplugged: Essential Christian Conversations

First Drag Queen Certified Candidate for Ordination in the United Methodist Church

Hank Unplugged: Essential Christian Conversations

The Christian Research Institute

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

5791 Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2022

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Hank Hanegraaff, president of the Christian Research Institute and host of the Bible Answer Man broadcast, reflects on the story that “Dragevangelist” Ms. Penny Cost (Isaac Simmons) is the first drag queen to be a certified candidate for ordination in the United Methodist Church—one of the largest evangelical denominations in the world. The name “Penny Cost” comes from the biblical story of Pentecost, and Ms. Penny Cost frequently dons bright red wigs emblematic of “tongues of fire.” But what all this is actually emblematic of is the erosion of the foundation of life in western civilization. The pillars that stand on that foundation are crumbling. Marriage redefined. Gender decoupled from biological sex. Pagans will always exercise their job description—what else can they do? The question is will Christians exercise their job description to be salt and light in a lost and searching world?



See Caroline Brew, “Ms. Penny Cost Discusses Being the First Drag Queen Certified Candidate for Ordination in the United Methodist Church,” Daily Northwestern, February 25, 2022, https://dailynorthwestern.com/2022/02/25/lateststories/ms-penny-cost-discusses-being-the-first-drag-queen-certified-candidate-for-ordination-in-the-united-methodist-church/.



Emily McFarlan Miller, “First Drag Queen Certified as a Candidate for United Methodist Ministry ‘Speaking In a New Way to New People,” April 15, 2021, https://religionnews.com/2021/04/15/first-drag-queen-certified-as-a-candidate-for-united-methodist-ministry-speaking-in-a-new-way-to-new-people/.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Hank Hennigraph, president of the Christian Research Institute and host of the Bible Answerman broadcast with another Hank unplug short. Today, I want to focus in on the body of

0:26.6

Christ, in that I was reading an article about one of the largest evangelical Protestant

0:35.6

denominations, not only in in America but in the world.

0:40.3

Miss Pennycost, also known as Isaac Simmons, is now the first drag queen that has been certified as a candidate for ordination in the United Methodist Church.

0:58.8

Miss Pentecost, well, he now serves as an associate pastor,

1:04.6

but is celebrating in stilettos.

1:09.3

Stilettos that he says rest on the shoulders of every queer person

1:13.5

who has ever sought ministry within the church.

1:18.2

These stilettos are symbolic of the fact that he is now being certified as a candidate for ordination.

1:30.5

Now, think about this.

1:32.6

Here is a man who dresses as a drag queen, who says that he is receiving tremendous support

1:42.9

across an evangelical Protestant denomination in America.

1:49.4

And by the way, his name slash her name, Pentecost, comes from the biblical story of Pentecost.

2:06.9

If you read chapter one through three of Acts,

2:13.4

you get the picture, the tongues of fire that come to rest on the disciples of our Lord.

2:22.5

They're filled with the Holy Spirit. So, Miss Pentecost is bringing that to the attention of Christians as a drag queen.

2:28.6

She often wears red wigs, which are emblematic of her own tongues of fire. So she's pointing to the tongues of fire, emblematic of the Holy Spirit that turned the world right side up 2,000 years ago.

2:40.1

Drag Sunday at Hope Church, which is the particular church, in which she was officiating that day,

2:47.7

looked just like any other service except, of course, it was being performed in drag.

2:54.8

And the message by Miss Pennycost was on the life of Jesus based on the gospel of Mark.

3:03.4

You can only imagine the aberrations.

3:08.7

And this is the very issue that we're dealing with in Western civilization.

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