The opportunity to leverage a lot and do a lot is there if my mindset for more comfortable with it.

Ebony, is the gender pay gap real? Is it a thing? Of course it's real. There's no doubt

generationally where women have been in history that there's an issue around finance and funding

for women and historically women have got less. However, from my perspective as well being a

woman who hasn't had children have stayed in the working game longer and there's a lot of stats

around this. If you're in the game in those ages 30 to 40 actually the gap significantly

shuts. So I think women are disadvantaged when they end up sometimes having to come out of work

and also with the historical problem. So yes, it's real. It varies for different people depending

on life circumstances but it's something that is improving. Because I thought I'd be fun to have

a look at the top only fans earners. They're ain't no men making money. I think Black China does

21 million a month. It's just 250 million a year. Top 10. By the way, I want to talk about it because

I said to you before I've never actually talked about this. In thousand odd episodes I haven't

talked about this. But I guess my point is all the top only fans for women because clearly there's

more value to men to consume that content. So is it that in some industries or areas women

have more value and in others men have more value or are paid more depending on industry or area?

I like where you've gone with it. There's a few things I thought so one social media I think has

changed the game full stop because it's just removed any barrier or hierarchy or someone in a

position of power being able to tell you what you can do. So if a woman sets up her only fans,

if she's attractive it will help. There's no doubt about that. But you know if a woman sets up

something which is not determined by somebody else deciding where or where they can't get in it,

they have freedom. And so I do think that in the modern generation there are way more opportunities

to break that which didn't exist in old school. It didn't exist in male dominated environments

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