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First Amendment Fallacies

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Politics, News, News Commentary

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Jameel Jaffer, executive director of the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University, to try to unpack how the First Amendment has become the answer to everything and yet actually applies to so few of the speech issues we face. 

In our Slate Plus segment, Mark Joseph Stern takes a look at Justice Clarence Thomas’ dissent this week that sounded a lot like an endorsement of the Big Lie of 2020: Just because there’s no evidence of voter fraud, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

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0:00.0

Hello, Slate podcast listeners. Help us make a better slate by answering our survey. It will only take a few minutes, I promise, and you can find it at slate.com slash survey.

0:17.4

Some people are looking to the First Amendment to be the solution to our problems in the digital public sphere.

0:22.8

And I think there's a real question. Can the First Amendment be a solution here?

0:26.1

But there's also a question. Is the First Amendment the problem?

0:44.7

Yeah. Hi, and welcome back to Amicus.

0:50.3

This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the law and the Supreme Court and the rule of law.

0:51.3

I'm Dahlia Lithwick.

0:52.9

I cover some of those things for Slate.

1:07.1

This past week has seen confirmation hearings for Merrick Garland to serve as the new Attorney General, bitter division around a COVID relief package, and bitter division around a voting rights bill.

1:12.9

And we're also seeing some signaling from the Supreme Court about the future of voting rights in the courts. But we wanted to turn our gaze up and out this episode to talk about

1:19.8

the First Amendment. Everybody everywhere, I promise, is mad right now about somebody taking

1:26.2

away their right to speak. But if the First Amendment is

1:30.4

unerringly the answer, it's at least possible we might be asking the wrong question.

1:36.1

So we wanted to consider speech and the regulation of speech, all the ways in which, as I am

1:42.5

at least coming to understand it, the so-called marketplace of

1:46.4

ideas is at the mercy of a real-life market. And all of this touches on our current global

1:53.3

politics, who regulates speech on Facebook and on Twitter, and who gets to impose consequences

1:59.1

when speech is inciting of violence.

2:02.4

Later on in the show, Slate Plus listeners are going to get to hear from the wonderful Mark Joseph Stern for an exclusive segment,

2:10.2

looking at the new shape of the Supreme Court, some hints on voting rights,

2:15.1

and also the uncanny commonalities in who gets hit with what

2:20.1

amounts of vitriol in the ongoing confirmation process for Justice Department positions.

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