EW's Game of Thrones podcasts, like John Snow, has risen from the dead. We are back with four

episodes over the next four weeks to talk about a new book in the world of Westeros. Sorry, it's not

the winds of winter. It's my book, Fire Cannot Kill a Dragon, the first ever inside story of making

Game of Thrones told from start to finish. And it was just published

today, October 6 by Random House Books. And there's all sorts of new revelations in there about

the show. And we're going to get into some of them over the next four weeks, including hearing

some clips from the cast and the writers from their interviews for the book, too. So I'm EW. Editor

at Large James Hibbard, by the way, if this is your first episode of the podcast, welcome. And the first person I gave a copy of the book to after George R. Martin was my podcast partner, E.W. critic, Darren Franage. And I've been kind of dying to know what he thinks and shamelessly hitting him up on Slack every five minutes going, did you get to that part yet? Did you get to that part yet?

So, Darren, read any good books lately? Oh, James, I've read a wonderful book, a wonderful book that I very much enjoyed. And can I just say, I've always thought of myself as someone who

should get something after George R.R.R. Martin. So thank you for confirming my place in the overall, overall itinerary of existence.

James, I've been excited about this book for a very long time. You know, I suspect someone would say

you're probably a little biased towards liking it. You've literally been talking to this guy

about this show for a significant portion of your professional life.

But truthfully, the bias might have gone in both directions because I assumed, like, hey,

like, I've talked to James about Game of Thrones on a podcast, off a podcast, internally,

externally, for years and years now.

I kind of thought, I probably even know all the stuff

he didn't tell the public. Like, I'm someone who knows the inside stories here. Even so,

so many great new revelations about the making of Game of Thrones from the cast,

from the people who worked on it from George R. Martin himself. It's such a delightful book

to read as somebody who watched the show,

and indeed the entire world watched the show,

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