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Switched on pop.

Welcome to Switched on Pop. I'm songwriter Charlie Harding. I think that everyone should be in a band at some point. You don't have to start off great. It doesn't have to go anywhere. It's honestly just the most fun to play music with your friends. And who knows what it might turn into. For me, it became this podcast with Nate after our band called it quits. And I think that right now

might be the perfect time. Bands are having a moment. And I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Phineas is one of today's most awarded producers beyond his solo work and collaborations with

his sister, Billy Eilish. He's worked with countless artists. Most relevantly here, Ash. Her music is this emotionally direct

songwriting that turns personal moments into universal anthems. And Phineas and Ash worked together on

her huge hit, Moral of the Story.

Some mistakes get made, that's all right, that's okay. In the end, it's better for me. That's the moral of the story, babe. And they make and that's all right, that's okay, in the end it's better for me, that's the moral of the story, babe.

And they made a duet together called Till Forever Falls Apart.

Till Forever Falls Apart,

We never had it from a start, till death do us part. Ash and Phyllis' From the Star Till's after the worst part

Ash and Phineas' collaboration

has blossomed into a band called The Favors.

It's also featuring their friends Marinelli and Ricky Rat Gourmet.

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