Finland Joins NATO, with Henri Vanhanen and Minna Ålander
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🗓️ 6 April 2023
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
Finland is in NATO. This week, the ratification was made complete, and the country joined the North Atlantic alliance. To talk through how it got there, Lawfare Publisher David Priess sat down with two research fellows at the Finnish Institute of International Affairs in Helsinki: Henri Vanhanen, who has also served as a foreign policy advisor to the National Coalition Party, which recently won the most seats in the Finnish parliament and is in the process of forming a government, and Minna Ålander, a research fellow who, like Henri, has recently written for Lawfare and has been on the podcast previously to talk about Finnish security issues. They talked about the long road to get to NATO membership for Finland, what Finland brings to NATO, and what NATO brings to Finland.
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| 0:29.0 | You're going to see Finland taking care of each share, |
| 0:37.0 | but of course, trying to ask others to do the same, |
| 0:41.0 | just because that's the goal that has been agreed upon between NATO Allies. |
| 0:45.0 | And it's only normal that Finland will be asking for others to do the same thing, |
| 0:49.0 | but what we are also doing. |
| 0:51.0 | But then we also get to the other aspect, which is interesting then. |
| 0:55.0 | Finland, even though it takes its national defense seriously, |
| 0:59.0 | you're not looking at a nation of war mongers. |
| 1:01.0 | I think you're looking at a country that is more of a, |
| 1:05.0 | in the sense of verify and then trust mentality, |
| 1:11.0 | that Finns use their defense force as a last resort, |
| 1:16.0 | but also as a strategic signal to, in this case, Russia, |
| 1:21.0 | that it's not really worth it. |
| 1:23.0 | I'm David Pris, publisher of LawFair, and this is the LawFair podcast for April 6, 2023. |
| 1:31.0 | Finland is in NATO. |
| 1:33.0 | This week the ratification was made complete, |
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